Suzy Orman Has Brainwashed My Wife
By Randall | March 11th, 2008 | Category: Personal Finance | 19 comments 10,871 views | 19 Comments » |
Do you have one of those spouses that seem to NEVER believe what you say until it’s been verified by an unimpeachable third-party source? My wife is like that. I could say that the sky is blue and grass is green, but until she hears it from an environmental scientist or botanist, I’m just speculating (and since I’m a guy, I’m probably wrong).
Recently she was listening to Oprah, and Suzy Orman was on the show. Apparently one of her ‘cases’ was a woman who’s husband had killed himself and left her with a financial fiasco (huge mortgage, 100k+ revolving credit debt, she hadn’t worked in years, and little or no savings). I feel for the woman, I really do, but it sparked off a conversation that went like this.
Wife: Do we have retirement funds?
Me (looking dumbfounded): Yes, I’ve told you about them almost hourly for the last couple of years.
Wife: Ok. (checks off a box on a piece of paper). Do we have any savings?
Me: (slightly more dumbfounded, if that’s possible) Of course, That’s another thing I’ve been trying to talk to you about. I had a t-shirt and washable marker made up so I could show you a running total of what we have.
Wife: Ok. (checks off second box). So, do we have any life insurance?
Me: Remember that piece of paper I wallpapered to inside of our bedroom door?? That’s our insurance policy. We play ‘remember the policy number’ with the boys each evening.
Wife: Ok. (checks off a third box). It sounds like I’m up to speed with everything now.
Me: (Softly weeping, not knowing whether to give thanks or scream in anguish.)
Give Thanks Where Thanks is Due
I’m caught between a rock and a hard place in my relationship. On the good side, my wife trusts me with the finances completely. That kind of trust is hard to handle sometimes. The pure responsibility is overwhelming occasionally. On the bad side, even when I try to get her involved, her ‘window of opportunity’ is only about 15 minutes at a time, and frankly, that’s not enough time to get her engaged enough to talk about all our various bills, credit cards, retirement funds, savings, and other financial things that she really needs to know about.
I guess I should be thankful for the things that she does get involved with, and I’m hoping that if something REALLY bad should happen to me, that all the documents, spreadsheets, notes, and such I’ve been telling her about will be enough to keep her afloat until she gets her ‘financial legs’ back.
My wife has one of the symptoms I’ve seen in many marriages, the ‘out of sight, out of mind’ syndrome. If she doesn’t have to deal with the finances on a day to day basis, she tends to start forgetting about them. The longer she’s away, the more she forgets. I’ve gone so far as to offer to turn all the finances over to her to do (usually in the midst of a ‘well if you don’t think I’m doing it right, YOU do it’ conversation,) but she never seems to take me up on the offer. So, status quo continues.
Plan for the Worst, Hope for the Best
Since I’m an Optimistic Pessimist (I meticulously plan for the worst, and am pleasantly surprised each day the sun DOES come up), having my wife up to speed finance-wise, has always been one of my goals. You never know when you’ll walk outside to get the mail and a local Hellmouth will swallow you whole. Things happen. You gotta be prepared.
If it takes a television intervention by the great Suzy Orman to get my wife thinking about finances and the future, I guess I can live with that.
How do you get YOUR Spouse/SO involved with the bills? Let us know, we’re dying to hear new ideas.

I feel your pain. My husband just isn’t very good at (or interested in) numbers, so basically he brings home the paychecks, and I take it from there. Which is fine, but if anything were to happen to me, he’d be in big trouble.
What I’m planning on doing by the end of the year is making an “Alien Abduction Manual.” Basically, it’s a binder that he could read for step by step instructions on where things are, what accounts we have, where to find our money, how I budget, etc. So far it’s the best solution I could come up with.
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I like your recap of the conversation with your wife!
I think Lynnae’s idea is very good, and probably about as good of a solution as you’re going to get
My husband also leaves all of the finances to me. He knows where the passwords are for everything, and he’s a pretty smart guy, so I think (hope) he’ll be able to figure everything out if I get “abducted by aliens”.
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I think Micah’s slightly more up-to-speed, but I’m not sure about his retention rate. Probably better than your wife’s at this point.
Lynnae sounds right on with her alien abduction manual. I may start one.
Just read this to Micah who went into hysterics. The good kind.
Very funny post!
Mike
No kidding Lynnae! I’m in the same boat. But it is opposite for me; my wife has no idea how the $$$ works. She just has it autodeposit in our account and I make it go places. I guess she also makes it go places, but those places are usually places where clothes are sold…
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In case you did not know, Suzy Orman admits to having used crystals to help her foretell future events. Her “career” as a stock broker got steered to selling annuities to senior citizens – much of what she bashes now. She was not a top seller. This is the person you take financial advice from? She got her show because she treats callers like children and hands out “mommy advice.” Just goes to prove the average American likes mindless entertainment rather than real solid advice.
@Thecoldhardtruth, Now I didn’t say that ‘I’ listened to her (I’m not a big fan of her advice) but she was on Oprah, and anyone/thing that is on Oprah is ‘oozing’ legitimacy, according to my wife.
I just tend to think she’s oozing SOMETHING all right.
Get ready for real pain.
Suzy Orman was on Larry King the other night implying that if your financial adviser had not called to tell you to get out of the market, you should be looking for a different adviser.
She will likely bring her message to Oprah to help out Obama
Coldhardtruth spoke in July. It’s now October. We’ve now seen that there are a lot of people out there that think money comes from the sky in the shape of a credit card, and that everybody DESERVES a McMansion irregardless of their income or job security. So even though Suzy Orman talks like she’s talking to children, apparently there are a lot of grown-up “children” out there….hence the credit debacle, and Suzy’s show.
@Laterthatsameyear,
It’s easy to look back and say what ’should’ have been done. The hard part is getting people to do the right thing BEFORE it becomes necessary or fashionable.
Props to Suzy on trying to get people to be more responsible for themselves, though. It just seems a little obvious now that many are in financial trouble.
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You are hilarious! I love it.. Thanks for sharing.
Hey, guy, I have to give you an incredible amount of points for making the effort to educate your wife. She obviously enjoys living in lala land with the financial business of the household. Shame on her. It is her responsiblity to know this stuff for the family if anything should happen to you. I get so mad when I hear about people who love to stay ignorant to the responsible part of life.
I just got divorced from a guy who started white water kayaking at the age of 50- a seriously dangerous sport, and I could not get him to talk seriously about life insurance-which we had none. He avoided the conversation for months and then abruptly left me for the thrill of match.com. He enjoyed the green pasture and fun of developing a profile which took him months to develop, after a 10 year relationship. I guess that explains the lack of interest in life insurance to protect my fears.
I just must say that your wife is a LUCKY GIRL. SHE IS LUCKY THAT YOU CARE ENOUGH TO PROTECT HER AND EDUCATE HER. Shame on her for taking advantage of your discipline with the finances of the family. It isn’t all about shopping-frankly that la la land lifestyle bores the crap out of me. Tell your wife to GET WITH IT NOW! She owes it to you and yours!
Great Article,
My wife has no clue what to do with money, so I think I’m not that much different than the majority of the people who have commented so far. I’m definitely going to make an abduction manual (probably the best idea I have ever heard!). What’s even more difficult in my situation is that I trade forex, and she is so clueless when I try to tell you that you can ‘trade money’ and make money. Maybe if I’m luck an alien will abduct my wife and teach her about finances before returning her. Unharmed of course.
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I really enjoyed reading what you had to say. Not all man are like you, my ex-husband was the exact opposite and was PART of the problem. I’m still paying from when we were together and I have learned a lot of lessons from it.
I happen to be in a serious relationship with a man that is very responsible with his money, and there is a huge difference. I learn from him any chance that I can get…..or from anyone else for than matter. Hopefully your wife is ready to listen, if not for herself, but for your children.
Good read though, thank you for the giggle. Oh, and I love Suzy Orman:)
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